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rimsoo
INDIA
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 Topic initiated on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 4:05 PM 
Doctor’s Fee?
Salam to all,
Does Quran and the Sunnah favours what Fee money a Muslim doctor charges from a patient?
Thanking in anticipations! |
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hkhan
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 10:35 PM 
Welcome to the SI forums R assalamu alaykum 
as for the Q re: assembly of the state and kashmir issue, plz refer to our course re:Political Directives;
about prayers and indecency, we cannot judge whether the person's prayers are being accepted as we do not have communication with God like the prophets did.
at the most we can give a good advice in a gentle manner-whilst trying to practice ourselves.
coming to the topic of doctors now  Qur'an and Sunnah outlines the basic rules of interaction and conduct-we ought to use common sense in order to provide benefit and avoid harm to the humanity whilst adopting a non-selfish and caring attitude in our lives-including profession. |
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rimsoo
INDIA
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Posted - Monday, August 27, 2007 - 11:07 AM
| I am very much grateful to brother hkhan for his kind reply! But the common sense (regarding the doctor’s fee) may vary from individual to individual. A doctor may have a different common sense than that of a patient. So who will be considered right or near the commandments of our Deen? |
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Rakhtal
PAKISTAN
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Posted - Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 10:50 AM
| It is no exaggeration to say that most of the income of most of the doctors is Hara'm! |
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waseem
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:38 AM
Doctors are like other professionals. they study to train as dcotors and like any other professional i.e engineer, carpenter, electrician, work to earn a living and look after their family. I did not understand the question about the doctor's fee being halal. Are you saying that doctors should work free? how do you expect them to support their family? I am working as a doctor and get paid to do my job.I pay the taxes of the government and zakaah according to Islamic shariah. I consider my working halaal.
I disagree with bro Rakhatal's generalised comment that most doctors in Pakistan earn haram income. I personally know many God fearing class fellows, collegues and family members who despite the climate of corruption in Pakistan , are earning halal income.
We must look at every profession in Pakistan and ask the question how rife is corruption in every institution? Why single out doctors? They are a part of the same society. Why do we have different expectations from them and not from a police man, judge, government officer etc.? |
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rimsoo
INDIA
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Posted - Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 1:34 PM
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Are you saying that doctors should work free?
Never but the limit of amount of money they charge. I asked about this limit in the light of our deen? |
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waseem
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 2:20 PM
| bro! are we talking about halal and haram, then we must be clear about it.for example let us say if I am doing private practice in pakistan and let us say I advertise that I will charge let us say 5000 rupees to see one patient, this is not haram. You ahve a choice to pay or see someone else, I am not forcing you to see me, you may call me greedy and unreasonable but how does it become haram. |
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rimsoo
INDIA
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Posted - Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 1:09 PM
| Thanks brother waseem. But most probably you couldn’t yet understand my point of view. Though the patients can go to the doctor which they can afford but ‘Does our Deen fully allow the doctors to demand any amount of fee of their own choice or it (our deen) has some check on them)’?. |
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waseem
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 4:51 PM
I have answered your query in my previous post. You can call such a person unreasonable and greedy but haram is a very serious allegation. If there is no cheating involved, i.e promising something and giving something else. or quoting some figure and charging something else .It is different.If the doctor openely states his fee and gives value for money then this is like , you go to buy a car, there is Mercedes Banz, Farrari, but if you cannot afford , you can always buy a suzuki, depends upon what you can afford, the price is clear for everyone to see.
What about other professions, hotels, for example, you can buy something for 50 rupees and then you can go to a hotel and pay 5000 rupees. Is that not the same.
Religion gives us general guidelines but there is no specific stipulation |
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rimsoo
INDIA
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Posted - Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 6:20 PM
I think you still couldn’t understand the point. I try to make it clear by the following example.
If a specialist doctor examines a patient only for not more than 5 minutes and charges 1000 rupees as the consultation fee. Now ‘Will the doctor be accountable or not, for this in any way, before Allah on the Day of the Judgment?’ |
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shahidas
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:12 PM
| I think it should be state's responsibility to provide basic healthcare facilities to all its citizens free of charge. At the moment in Pakistan free treatment is only offered to working class. This will not only encourage doctors to diagnose and prescribe correctly but will also limit the abuse of this highly caring profession to adopt just as a money making business. It will give a choice to those who can afford to pay private healthcare they can do so to cut the waiting time short as nationalising would put extra load on hospitals to see all patients according to priorties hence long waiting lists for specialised care like here in UK. I certainly will not see over profiteering as haram but common sense tells its not favourable by Islam. |
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waseem
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 10:23 AM
Quote; If a specialist doctor examines a patient only for not more than 5 minutes and charges 1000 rupees as the consultation fee. Now ‘Will the doctor be accountable or not, for this in any way, before Allah on the Day of the Judgment?’
Your query is again general. Are you saying spending 30 minutes , whether it was a useless consultation justifies the fee. I have seen patients in 5 minutes, depending upon their problem and would think gave them value for money.
The issue is intention and let Allah be the judge, we cannot judge individuals and their intentions. If you are not satisfied with a particular doctor , try a different one. |
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rimsoo
INDIA
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Posted - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 11:14 AM
Dear Shahidas,
So, according to your belief, any cleverly done and sophisticated way of dishonesty, theft, fraud, black marketing and exploiting others etc is not at all accountable on the Day of the Judgment! Isn’t it? |
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rimsoo
INDIA
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Posted - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 1:05 PM
Dear waseem,
quote:
Are you saying spending 30 minutes , whether it was a useless consultation justifies the fee. I have seen patients in 5 minutes, depending upon their problem and would think gave them value for money.
Please take the example as an example only
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If you are not satisfied with a particular doctor, try a different one.
I can pay any expensive doctor but it is not the case. I took it to see only its importance in the light of our Deen but you couldn’t understand.
If you yourself are a doctor, you can say no more than you did. |
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waseem
UNITED KINGDOM
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Posted - Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 9:35 PM
Allah ahs given us inborn or innate guidance to delinate right from wrong. revealed guidance is given where innate guidance is not enough.
Islam has not provided us with a written penal code. But guidleines.
Religion aside morally if someone is not giving value for money and not fulfilling his duties , that is wrong. whether religion is brought in question or not is immeterial. our innate guidance tells that is wrong. we do not ahve to bring revealed guidance to tell the answer. |
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rimsoo
INDIA
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Posted - Friday, August 31, 2007 - 1:45 AM
| Thanks but now at this site, I can rely on the opinion of Javed Ahmed Ghamidi only, if available. |
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