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atifrafi

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, April 12, 2005  -  3:10 PM Reply with quote
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Taking the text out of context make it appear different. Please check the pages yourself and read the whole sentences then you will understand what Maulana means by using the words highlighted. Anyone can take verses from Quran and use them against Islamic teaching by using them out of context.
Nadeem


Salaam,

Dear brother I think I mentioned it that I haven't verified it and now a days its a little bit difficult for me to get it and read, thats why I posted it here so that someone can clarify this.

I would request you to please quote the complete point. I'll be obliged

Thanks
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, April 15, 2005  -  9:07 AM Reply with quote
Salams,
Maulana Maududi(ra)has been a target of severe criticism by ulema and some of his friends.Among these criticisms,I think only Waheedudin Khan(Taabir ki ghalti),Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi(asre hazir mein deen ki tafhim wo tashreeh)and Islahi,s(maqalat-i-Islahi) criticism merit serious consideration.
The traditional scholars have,mainly,insinuated that Maududi has plasphemed against Prophets,Sahaba and the wives of the Prophet(pbuh)but they inferred this conclusions by distorting his writings for their own inferences.(Maududi could not even think of blaspheming against these noble personalities).I think the main point for which Mawdudi sahib should be criticised is his giving main role to politics in Islam.His writings reveal,as far as understand,that establishment of an Islamic government or striving for this purpose should be the foremost purpose of a Muslim,s life.Without this no person can become a good Muslim.
Now this is a grave misinterpretaton Of Deen.I think his interpretation of "Iqamat-e-Deen" should be the main point of Criticism.
So what is "Iqamat-i-Deen"and how its real meaning has been distorted,Please:read Ghamidi,s book "Burhan" or Waheedudin Khan,s "Taabir Ki ghalti".
Roswell

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, April 15, 2005  -  9:15 PM Reply with quote
I'm in full agreement with you brother Aslam. Poeple just uses bad words for him when asked why they don't even know why most of his fellows left him. I think one should read and figure out why Islahi, Waheedudin Khan, Dr Israr erc. left him. I've read Tabeer ki Ghalti by Waheedudin Khan and he has well established logical points as to why he left Jamat-e-Islami.
aslam

PAKISTAN
Posted - Saturday, April 16, 2005  -  11:20 AM Reply with quote
Maulana Maudoodi write in his pubilaction of Tafheem-ul-Quran Page 412 as under:
The truth is that this question causes another question, which is even more fundamental and important than this and that is whether Hazrat Yousaf was a prophet or not. If he was a prophet then do we find such a concept about a prophet that he may offer his services to promote a system based on infidelity who himself claims to be a muslim. this question leads to another question, which is even more delicate and critical that whether Hazrat Yousaf was a righteous man or not? If he was a righteous person then is it righteousness that on one side while he was behind te bar he started his prophetic mission and informed the egyptians that is that one Allah who is dominent on everything is not better then so many self-made gods? and that the king of the egypt is also one of such self-made gods, and openly clarify his mission that it is only one Allah who can ordain the rule the world over. but at the time of trial he himself becomes the most obedient servant of the Government and rather guard of the Government, which was ruling under the godliness of the king of egypt the root base of which is all the domination of the king & not Allah.


I cheked the original source(Tafhim-ul-Quran Vol:2 Tafsir Surah Yusuf,Foot note 47) and I was shocked to find that how some people stoop to mean tricks to malign scholars not belonging to their "group".I think no Muslim,with an iota of Fear of Allah,can stoop to such gross misinterpretation of a person,let alone of a scholar of Mawdudi,s stature.
In his rebuttal of the view that Yusuf(a.s)coveted the post of the guardian of exchequer of egypt,Mawdudi sahib asks whether we can expect such greed from a rigteous person,let alone a prophet! Now what is derogatory in such a statement???
I doubt whether the persons who have inferred "blashemy" in the refered words of Mududi sahib,can read a good Urdu prose, which is a characteristic of Maududi sahib,s books.
atifrafi

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, April 25, 2005  -  8:53 AM Reply with quote
Assalam o Alaikum,

Brother Aslam thanks for the reply and extremely sorry for the late reply.....

I still haven't read the quoted verses myself and I'll try to read these as soon as possible. Just to clarify my point, I received this answer ( which I have quoted ) from the Jamia Ashrafia (Lahore) website, and I am also unable to understand why they are against Maulana Mawdudi, specially as stated by you the exact words are not like the one they have quoted.

Once again, thanks for the clarification.

Regards
usmani790

PAKISTAN
Posted - Monday, April 25, 2005  -  11:05 AM Reply with quote
Dear atifrafi

I tried to serch it from Jamia Ashrafia Lahore web site(http://www.ashrafia.org.pk) but could not find it.Could you pleae give more details so i can see it.

Regards
NavidKhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Monday, April 25, 2005  -  3:30 PM Reply with quote
Dear All,
Assalamoalaikum wa Rahmatu(A)llahe wabarakatohoo

First of all I would like to declare that I have no personal interests or conflict of interest that needs to be declared, as far as the personality of Syed Abul Ala Maudoodi Sahib is concerned.

Syed Maudoodi Sahib was a Journalist by profession and then became a prolific writer on Islam and Islamic issues. Very early on when he founded the Jama'at e Islami, he did not pretend to hide the fact that the reason for founding the Jama'at was in order to acquire political power and then to implement the Islamic Sharia as understood and interpreted by him. I have a great deal of respect for the honesty, which he showed.

I do however believe that his proposed modus operandi was doomed to fail. The Holy prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) has quite clearly stated in one of the Sahih Ahadeeth:

Ahsanul hadeethe kitabAllahe, wa ahsanul hadiye, hadiye Muahmmadun (salAllaho alaihe wasallam). Wa sharrul umoore muhdithatun. Wa kulle bid'atun dalala wa kulle dalaltun finnaar.

The best of sayings is that of the Book of Allah (the Holy Quran), the best way is that shown by Muhammad (salAllaho alaihe wasallam). All innovation is a source of Error (which leads one astray) and all Error is bound for hell-fire!

The example of the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) is a beacon of light for Muslims of all times. Throughout his blessed life, he never considered the establishing of an Islamic State, the objective of his mission. He came to purify hearts and to teach them the Book and Wisdom. We read in Sura Al-Jum'a:

[62:2] He it is Who has raised among the unlettered people a Messenger from among themselves who recites unto them His Signs, and purifies them, and teaches them the Book and Wisdom though before that they were in manifest error;

If any sort of revolution is to be brought about in society, it is important to first change the Perceptions of the people one intends to inform. It is what is in the hearts of people that needs to be challenged and reformed. This sort of change can never be brought about by regimentation or enforcement by political or administrative pressure. Such a change can only be brought about by Education, education and education!

Is it not a miracle of God that a so-called Ummee Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) became the greatest teacher of Knowledge, Wisdom and Morals.

(Ummee is generally translated as "unlettered", but which in my opinion points to the Innocent Nature and Character of the Prophet from the phrase "of His Mother" or due to the fact that he was from an inhabitant of Makkah which was called Ummul Qura'a, the mother od Cities)

In my opinion the fact that the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) never sought political power for himself, is quite clear from even an elementary study of the Seerat. It was a matter of reformation and Purification of the people as mentioned in the phrase ( wa yuzakkeehim )
"He (the Messenger salAllaho alaihe wasallam,) Purifies them" Sura Jum'a verse 2.

Once the majority of the population of Madina were converted to Islam, Madina automatically became a Muslim Habitat.

I do not have any doubt about the intentions of Syed Abul Aala Maudoodi Sahib and I think he contributed greatly to the corpus of Islamic literature. I do however disagree with his methodology.

The Ulema of our Ummat have a great responsibility. There will always be diversity of opinion and there is nothing wrong with having difference of opinion on matters of detail, as long as the principles of Deen such as Tuawheed, Risalat and the elements of Eemaniyaat are adhered to.

We in Muslim Society must learn to tolerate difference of opinion. Immediately labelling people as "Kafirs, Muanfiqs and Innovators" at the slightest disent from accepted "wisdom" is not at all helpful in developing intellectual discussion and research.

May Allah enable us to become tolerant of each other and in the words of the Holy Quran:

Ruhama-o bainahum Sura Al Fatah last Ruku.

Wassalam

Navidul Haq Khan
atifrafi

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, April 26, 2005  -  2:31 PM Reply with quote
quote:

Dear atifrafi

I tried to serch it from Jamia Ashrafia Lahore web site(http://www.ashrafia.org.pk) but could not find it.Could you pleae give more details so i can see it.

Regards


Assalam o Alaikum,

I read some information on the net and then I asked from them why they are saying so about Maulana Maudoodi. In the reply I received the message which I have quoted.

The information which I read is available at the following link :

http://www.al-islam.edu.pk/Tusmani/18.htm

This site is also managed by the Jamia Ashrafia. You can check the contact info.

Regards
Bhavittre

PAKISTAN
Posted - Tuesday, April 26, 2005  -  8:16 PM Reply with quote
Salam
Dear NavidKhan
You said….. from accepted "wisdom" is not at all helpful in developing intellectual discussion and research.

who people can take part in the research? what is their criteria? does every body that knows about the computer can take part?
Please help and give your opinion.
NavidKhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Wednesday, April 27, 2005  -  7:35 PM Reply with quote
Dear Bhavittre

Assalamoalaikum wa Rehmatu(A)llahe wa Barakatohoo,

In my opinion, one of the most distinctive features of Islam is the fact that we do not have any priesthood in Islam. There are no priestly orders or Rabbis such as those in Judaism or Christianity and there is no specially selected Caste (such as the Brahmins) as in Hinduism, where a study of the Scriptures is the exclusive right of the Brahmin Caste, excluding all others.
By the Grace of Allah, the Word of Allah ( the Holy Quran) addresses the individual. Every Muslim, no matter how educated or otherwise he or she is, no matter whether they are rich or poor or what caste or nationality they belong to. They are all addressed as individuals.

When God Almighty says in Sura Al-Qamar not once but three times:

walaqadd yassarnalqurana fahul minmuddakir
[54:22] And indeed, We have made the Qur'an easy to
remember. But is there anyone who would take heed?

it is a direct invitation, no even a commandment by God, for all of us to take heed.

Similarly in another verse of the Holy Quran, Allah has invited the Muslims by saying

Afala tadabbaroon?
will you not then analyse and try to understand the meaning of the Holy Quran.

The ultimate Goal of every Muslim, in my opinion is to achieve Salvation or Nijaat . Salvation is a personal and individual matter and the understanding of the Holy Quran is also a personal duty of a Muslim.

This does not mean that every person will necessarily become an Aalime deen . Every person will be granted an understanding of the Holy Quran according to his or her aptitude and intellectual ability.

Let me give you an example. I am a Medical Doctor and so is my younger brother. I am have specialised to become a Pathologist, while my brother is a Nephrologist (Specialist in diseases of the Kidney). I do not have much of an aptitude for Research, while My brother has produced a significant amount of research work.

Similarly every person will be graced with that amount of knowledge and wisdom, from a study of the Holy Quran as he or she can grasp with their intellectual capacity. Only one condition is necessary for the accomplishment of this goal and that is mentioned in the opening verses of Sura Al-Baqara:

[2:3] This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous,
[2:4] Who believe in the unseen and observe prayer and spend out of what We have provided for them.
[2:5] And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee and that which was revealed before thee and they have firm faith in the hereafter.

The condition is that the person should be a Muttaqee and there should be a sincerity of purpose in Urdu / Arabic Khuloose Niyyat. The only purpose for undertaking a study of the Holy Quran should be to seek Allah's Pleasure and there should be no other reason. If after the seeking of this knowledge, one teaches it to others, that should also be with the same intention i.e. to seek Allah's pleasure and not for one's own fame or fortune.

I believe that the only true means of salvation for Muslims, both on the individual and collective levels, is through the study of the Holy Quran with the intention of making it one's "garb" in Urdu we say orna aur bechhona ; and then to study the Seerat of the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wa sallam) with the intention of following in his blessed example and His practice.

It is precisely because we have failed to do this that we find ourselves in the predicament in which we are.

You have also asked, Can everyone do research? I think I have partly answered this question. Yes anyone who wants to delve into the great ocean of the Holy Quran, provided He or She is a Muttaqee, they will receive true guidance and their efforts will be rewarded with success. Do you think that people like Hazrat Bilal, Abdullah bin Masud, Ibne Abbas and other companions of the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wa sallam) were graduates from any reknowned Madrisas or Universities? They learnt the Wisdom and the Knowledge of the Book after having been purified by the Holy prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam).

It is truly magnificent to read the the two verses which describe the duties and functions of our Holy prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) in the Holy Quran.

The first mention is made in the Prayer of Hazrat Ibraheem (alaihesalaam) Sura Baqara: In which he prayed for a Prophet from amongst his children to be raised. I have highlighted the Functions which Hazrat Ibraheem (alaihesalam) prayed that this Prophet might perform.

[2:128] And remember the time when Abraham and Ishmael raised the foundations of the house, praying, 'Our Lord, accept this from us; for thou art the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing;

[2:129] 'Our Lord, make us both submissive to Thee and make of our offspring a people submissive to Thee. And show us our ways of worship and turn to us with mercy; for thou art Oft-Returning with compassion, and art Merciful.
[2:130] 'And, Our Lord, raise up among them a Messenger from among themselves, who may recite to them Thy Signs and teach them the Book and Wisdom and may purify them; surely, Thou art the Mighty, the Wise'.

When allah Almighty eventually accepted this prayer of Abul Anbiya (alaihe salaam), by raising our Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) it was accepted in the most Glorious manner. In Sura Jum'a we read:

[62:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[62:2] Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth glorifies Allah, the Sovereign, the Holy, the Mighty, the Wise.
[62:3] He it is Who has raised among the unlettered people a Messenger from among themselves who recites unto them His Signs, and purifies them, and teaches them the Book and Wisdom though before that they were in manifest error;


The Functions are the same, only their order has been changed!

Please think about this and let me know what your opinions are now.

wassalam

Navidul Haq Khan
Bhavittre

PAKISTAN
Posted - Friday, April 29, 2005  -  7:00 PM Reply with quote
dear Navidul Haq Khan.
salam

Thank you for the very good reply. I could not have difficulty to understand
usmani790

PAKISTAN
Posted - Wednesday, May 4, 2005  -  11:26 AM Reply with quote
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In my opinion the fact that the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) never sought political power for himself, is quite clear from even an elementary study of the Seerat. It was a matter of reformation and Purification of the people as mentioned in the phrase ( wa yuzakkeehim )
"He (the Messenger salAllaho alaihe wasallam,) Purifies them" Sura Jum'a verse 2.

Once the majority of the population of Madina were converted to Islam, Madina automatically became a Muslim Habitat.
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Brother Navidul Haq Khan
Assalamoalaikum wa Rehmatu(A)llahe wa Barakatohoo,

In the beginning when Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) migrated to Madina, he had pact with the Jewish and later on he has no war pack with Kuffar-e-Mecca. All these prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) actions are of political in nature, which gave way to the Muslims to strong enough to challenge the Kuffar-e- Macca.

I am very surprise why we forget that prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) had fought many wars and led his canpaniom from front. This to achieving the goal to spread Dawat to rest of the world. He sends his messengers for this purpose.

Four Khlifah also had done the same. When people refuses to give Zakat the Hazrat Abu Baker Siddique (RHA) fought with them. He only can do such thing to his people when his all the powers including political power .All four Kliphs were taking care of their people on every aspect of life. This only can be done when they will have the political, administrative power. Infect they had established the methodology for rest of the ummah from where we can see how a society where Muslim are in power must be run.

Islam deals with every aspect of life including politics. Modudi Sahib way to me is according to Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) way and not the innovation. Its looks different or innovation to the peoples because situation and ground realities are different. The politics we see these days in Muslim countries are mostly not according to the teaching of Islam. Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) has laid down all the details in his saying and acts.

Pakistan was created on the name of Islam and the politicians of that time were not having any intention to run the county as per the Islamic laws. The efforts of Modudi Sahib to find some way so this country should run on the basis of its creations. To achieve this goal, Jamat-e-Islmai created by him.Modudi Sahib never sought political power for him self.

I ask forgiveness to Allah if I said some thing wrong here. Please treat my above comments as lay man comments. My intention is that to share my point of view in the forum and learn some thing out of it with knowledgeable person like you.

Allah Hafiz.
NavidKhan

UNITED KINGDOM
Posted - Friday, May 6, 2005  -  6:32 PM Reply with quote
Dear Usmani Bhai,

assalamoalaikum wa Rahmatu(A)llahe wabarakatohoo,

Thank you for your reply to my posting and for your comment. I think we seem to forrget the fact that the life of the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) was unique in all of Human history. There has never been any such person and never again will there be anyone equal to him, in all aspects of his life.

It is true that Islam is an all encompassing religion. It has given guidance for every possible situation which might befall Human beings and Human society for all times to come. It is for this reason that Allah Almighty has said in Sura Al- Anbiyya:

[33:21] Verily, you have in the Prophet of Allah an excellent model, for him who hopes to meet Allah and the Last Day and who remembers Allah much.
I beleive that no matter what situation a Muslim finds himslef or herself in, they should always ask themselves

"What would RasoolAllah (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) have done in my place?"

It is for this reason that the study of the Serat e RasoolAllah (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) is of paramount importance.

I believe very strongly that the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) had only one objective in life and it is mentioned in the Holy Quran in Sura Al- An'am

[6:163] Say, 'My Prayer and my sacrifice and my life and my death are all for Allah, the Lord of the worlds;


I am completely convinced of the fact after having studied the Life pf the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) with great care, that He did not struggle to achieve Political doimination. The fact that political domination was granted to him, was a direct consequence of the Da'awa and Tabligh that the Muslims undertook after the Pact of Hudaibiyah (Sulh Hudaibiya). Once peace was established between the Kuffar of Makkah and the Muslims in madina, the Muslims were able to travel to all parts of the Arabian penninsula to spread the Message of the Holy Quran without being bothered by the Kuraish of Makkah. It was this period of almost two years which saw the massive conversion of the arabs to the religion of Islam.

I disagree with Maulana Maudoodi Sahib, when he writes "When the Holy prophet took the Sword into his hand, the hearts began shedding the rust which had covered them and people started teurning to Islam". (these words are a rough translation of his Urdu writing which I remember by heart. My mempory may not be as accurate as it used to be. I apologise if the translation and the quotation do not do justice to the actual Urdu text. If I remember correctly the Urdu is like this "Jabb aapkay haath main talvaar aaee, to dilon par say sadiyon kay zang chutnay lagay

This would imply that Islam was spread by the sword! This I cannot accept. The Holy Quran is quite categorical in this respect. In Sura Al-Baqara Allah Almighty has declared:


[2:256] There is no compulsion in religion. Surely, the right way has become distinct from error; so whosoever refuses to be led by those who transgress, and believes in Allah, has surely grasped a strong handle which knows no breaking. And Allah is All-Hearing. All-Knowing.


I believe that it was the example of the Holy Prophet (salAllaho alaihe wasallam) and his Sahaba, which caused the revolution, not the Sword.

WaAllaho Aalam

N.B. I am sorry once again if I have misquoted Maulan Maudoodi Sahib above. I will try to get the exact quotation and then post it in this section of the forum InshaAllah

Wassalam

Navidul Haq Khan

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